New Systems.

[Zhiel]

Ok, after some discussions and such we've decided to put up the planned new system for public viewing and commenting before it officially replaces the old one.

New Chain

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[li]Powerless Human
[/li][li]Spirit (Plus)

Class 0+
[/li][li]Newborn Hollow
[/li][li]NWO Grunt
[/li][li]Shinigami Student

Class 1
[/li][li]Humanoid (Phase 1)
[/li][li]Unranked shinigami
[/li][li]Hollow

Class 2
[/li][li]Shinigami (10th seat -> 7th Seat)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 1)
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Gen 2 Armor)

Class 3
[/li][li]Shinigami (6th seat -> 5th Seat)
[/li][li]Menos (Gillian)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1)
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 1, Gen 2 Armor)

Class 4
[/li][li]Shinigami (4th seat -> 3rd Seat)
[/li][li]Menos (Adjuchas)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1, Shikai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2)

Class 5
[/li][li]Arrancar (Numéro)
[/li][li]Humanoid (with phase 2)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Vice Captain)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1, Bankai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2, Shikai)

Class 6
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 2, Gen 2 Armor)
[/li][li]Menos (Vasto Lorde)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Vice Captain, Bankai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2, Bankai)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 2)

Class 7
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 2, Gen 3 Armor)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain, Rank 1)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #10 -> #5)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 3, Shikai)
[/li][li]Humanoid (Phase 3)

Class 8
[/li][li]NWO Commander (Phase 2, Thanatos Armor)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 1, In Bankai)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 2)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #10 -> #5, In Resurrection)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #4 -> #1)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 3, Bankai)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 3)

Class 9
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 2, In Bankai)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #4 -> #1, In Resurrection)
[/li][li]Vizard (Council, Phase 3, Bankai)

Class 10
[/li][li]Shinigami (Commander General AKA Captain Rank 3)
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New Training Points System

This is a record of how much each ability/ technique is worth, and the amount each rank can potentially earn per training post

An explanation of most of these skills can be found here: Techniques

Max points per post - Max points per Month.

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[li]Powerless Human
[/li][li]Spirit (Plus)

Class 0+ // 5 Points - 60 Points
[/li][li]Newborn Hollow
[/li][li]NWO Grunt
[/li][li]Shinigami Student

Class 1 // 5 Points - 75 Points
[/li][li]Humanoid (Phase 1)
[/li][li]Unranked shinigami
[/li][li]Hollow

Class 2 // 5 Points - 150 Points
[/li][li]Shinigami (10th seat -> 7th Seat)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 1)
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Gen 2 Armor)

Class 3 // 10 Points - 225 Points
[/li][li]Shinigami (6th seat -> 5th Seat)
[/li][li]Menos (Gillian)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1)
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 1, Gen 2 Armor)

Class 4 // 15 Points - 300 Points
[/li][li]Shinigami (4th seat -> 3rd Seat)
[/li][li]Menos (Adjuchas)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1, Shikai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2)

Class 5 // 20 Points - 375 Points
[/li][li]Arrancar (Numéro)
[/li][li]Humanoid (with phase 2)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Vice Captain)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 1, Bankai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2, Shikai)

Class 6 // 25 Points - 450 Points
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 2, Gen 2 Armor)
[/li][li]Menos (Vasto Lorde)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Vice Captain, Bankai)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 2, Bankai)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 2)

Class 7 // 30 Points - 525 Points
[/li][li]NWO Special Op (Phase 2, Gen 3 Armor)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain, Rank 1)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #10 -> #5)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 3, Shikai)
[/li][li]Humanoid (Phase 3)

Class 8 // 30 Points - 600 Points
[/li][li]NWO Commander (Phase 2, Thanatos Armor)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 1, In Bankai)
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 2)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #10 -> #5, In Resurrection)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #4 -> #1)
[/li][li]Vizard (Phase 3, Bankai)
[/li][li]Bount (Phase 3)

Class 9 // 30 Points - 700 Points
[/li][li]Shinigami (Captain Rank 2, In Bankai)
[/li][li]Arrancar (Espada #4 -> #1, In Resurrection)
[/li][li]Vizard (Council, Phase 3, Bankai)

Class 10
[/li][li]Shinigami (Commander General AKA Captain Rank 3)
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Powers

Shinigami / Vizard

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Shikai 175
Bankai 600
Shunpo 150
Shunko 350

Kido

For a list of official Kido's, look here: Kido List

# 1-19 20
# 20-39 40
# 40-59 60
# 60-79 80
# 80-89 100
# 90-99 125


Vizard

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Phase One 75
Phase Two 250
Phase Three 600


Humans/Mod Souls/ Quincy

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Phase Two 150
Phase Three 500 - NWO Operatives (or Commanders) cannot attain.

NWO Armor and Weapon Upgrades //I need to add some more details to this.

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Second Generation Armor 150 - Includes 1 Class 2 Upgrade.
Third Generation Armor 350 - Includes 1 Class 2 Upgrade.
Thanatos Armor 500 (300 if trained for Third Gen Armor) - Commander Only, Includes 2 Class 2 Upgrades.

Second Gen Weapon/Upgrade Class 1 50
Second Gen Weapon/Upgrade Class 2 90
Third Gen Weapon/Upgrade Class 1 120
Third Gen Weapon/Upgrade Class 2 200

Quincy

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(Silver Tube Techniques)

Heizen 60
Gritz 75
Volcore 50
Sprenger 100
Custom Tech Contact the administration for point costs.

(Special Techniques)

Hirenkyaku 150
Ransōtengai 300
Custom Tech Contact the administration for point costs.


Bount

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Level 1 75
Level 2 175
Level 3 600

Custom Tech Contact the administration for point costs.


Hollow

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Gillian - Class 3 75
Adjuchas - Class 4 225
Vasto Lorde - Class 6 400
VL Class 7 Upgrade 600
VL Class 8 Upgrade 1500

Arrancarization 500

Arrancar / Menos

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Hollow Tech.

Bala 75
Cero 150
Garganta 50
Hierro 75
Negaccion 100
Pesquisa 75
Sonido 150
Custom Tech Contact the administration for point costs.
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New Kido System

Kido System

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[li]Unranked Shinigami - May start with [3] kido up to number thirty.

[/li][li]10th seat to 7th seat - May start with [5] kido up to number forty.

[/li][li]6th seat to 5th seat - May start with [6] kido up to number sixty.

[/li][li]4th seat to 3rd seat - May start with [8] kido up to number seventy.

[/li][li]Vice-Captain - May start with [9] kido up to number eighty.

[/li][li]Captain Rank 1 - May start with [12] kido up to number ninety.

[/li][li]Captain Rank 2 - May start with [15] kido up to number ninety-nine.

Note: In order to have a Kido of Number 20-39 you must have a kido of number 01-19 of the same type, continuing to 40-59, and from there you need to have a kido of 60-69 to be allowed a 70-79 kido, and so on.
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Kido Specialists

If the character is primarily focused in Kido, they may add 50% extra Kido spells to their list (Meaning 8 kido would translate to 12) as well as being more powerful in using them, but as a result must state what their other weaknesses are in return, in order to balance it up.[/quote]

[Darkoda]

One question: What's the point of the max points per thread? Won't that just make things more cluttered as people would just break up their posts into multiple threads to train for the same techniques? Especially the more costly ones.

And also, it might end up affecting the flow of stories. People might end up breaking off threads at points instead of continuing the entire story because of the limit on points per thread. If the event is something that should flow continuously, (like bankai training), it would make the story more troublesome to keep track of, because the flow keep getting interrupted with having to jump to multiple threads.

[Zhiel]

The reason for the points per thread is due to a new rule we will add which puts a limit on how many training threads can be submitted per month, though the exact number is still under discussion so it has yet to be added, but will be by the time the new system is officially added.

[Mr. Butterfly]

Well, even if that's the max points you can get, wouldn't you want to stay in a thread to see if you can get more points in one post than another? Besides, I RP for the sake of the fun in it. Training so that Barda can become stronger than others . . . is just awesome.

[Firechild]

I have to agree with the others on the thread limiting. Say for example you've been in a training thread for a few months, but don't feel like stopping even though you've bypassed your maximum point total for that thread.

I would personally be pretty disappointed that I would no longer be able to earn points for a thread that I've worked hard in putting quality posts in.

I can understand your hesitancy for this because of the few members who don't make multiparagraph, to novel sized posts *cough GK* Putting up a bunch of three sentence posts and getting there points fast.

But that's why we have the class to point system so they don't earn near as much.

I don't know, I just found it a little odd. Just my two cents.

Now, about the kido listing.

It's not expansive enough. The details for each individual Kido are great don't get me wrong. But there aren't enough kido up there.

bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kidou

That should give you most, if not all of the currently revealed Kidou.

[Darkoda]

Something about training for bankai needs to be addressed too. A test for bankai involves dominating over your zanpakuto, so simply getting into a fight shouldn't get you any closer to it. The only possible way I could see that working is if you're incapable of materialising your spirit yet, and if that is the case, there needs to be a limit on how many points you could get out of that.

[kensei]

I agree, there should be no limit as to how many points you can obtain per thread but each post should should rather be individually graded so that you can get good points for your hard work or shit points for shit posts.

Also am i the only one who dosent know the difference between a shingami cap rank one and rank 2?

IT should also be noted that all attacks should be re done for this new system. (attack power wise and what damage they would do to different classes)

[GoldenKitten]

If most of you feel that way then rather than a point limit per RP how about instead a point limit per month? That way you can continue that thread and you can even do the work beforehand but you can't apply for the points that might have gone over the limit until the next month. This isn't just about stopping power hungry point grabbers, its to create a more realistic pace of growth. We realize this is an RP and so we can't be expected to hold completely to the canon but that doesn't stop the fact that characters should not be capable of gaining something that took a shinigami in the canon 100 years in a single training thread that took place in one day RP time (or one fight for that matter as is the case for some).

As for Darkoda's point about the bankai, while it sounds good in theory lets just be realistic. Not everyone has the creative muse to write a solo RP that NOBODY else is going to read just to gain bankai. It wouldn't hurt to mention ones connection with their blade during training but it is for this reason that typical training is sufficient so long as it involves ones zanpaktou, though mentions of the spirit and conversations between them would no doubt improve the point gain of that particular post.

[Darkoda]

I think the point limit per month would work out better. And I see your point about the bankai training.

[kensei]

I do believe the point per month thing would work wonders ^^ i still dont know the difference between a cap level 1 and a cap level 2.

[Darkoda]

I think its a measure of power and experience. Using the manga as an example, Hitsugaya would be rank 1 and Shunsui would be rank 2. As for who is rank 1 and 2 in the rp, that we probably have to ask GK.

[GoldenKitten]

Well since we have visual experience with those in For the Fallen I'll use them as examples, even if they are dead. Honestly I think there should be three levels but that would require making more phases, anyway.

Nekomi, Minoru and Yun would be 2.
Kisho, Hitotsu and Jerimiah would be 1.

The levels are strictly dictated by power level. Things such as experience and personality apply in unseen ways they would not come into effect here seeing as the list is a vague outline of strength and no something that is strictly followed like an unwavering bible.

[Zhiel]

updated the training system and changed it to a "Per Month" limit. Tell me what you think of it so far.

[elimyx]

Do you guys have a set date on when this system will be implemented?

[Zhiel]

Soon incase things work out. Depends on when I get some actual feedback from the other members... *sigh*