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Post by Angelo on Dec 3, 2007 16:57:04 GMT -4
Well, they're basically the same thing in theory, just in reverse.
Vizards, Shinigami who have obtained Hollow powers.
Arrancar, Hollows who have obtained Shinigami powers.
So, which paradox is better?
Vizard, who keep their human appearance and multi-leveled Zanpakuto, gaining a mask to boost their powers and a split personality inner Hollow who is determined to devour them from the inside out?
Arrancar, who gain a human appearance with a relocated hole, broken mask, and Zanpakuto which can release their sealed Hollow powers?
Let us know which you think is better, and don't forget to explain why!
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ZR0 C00L
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Post by ZR0 C00L on Dec 3, 2007 17:00:39 GMT -4
i like arrancar better, its a more complete fusion. it is their power, under the control of the user not a crammed consciousness at odds with one another
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Post by Sleeps on Dec 3, 2007 17:04:15 GMT -4
Sorry but I will have to say Vizard, the hole thing, is not for me lol
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Post by Fleeka on Dec 3, 2007 17:05:02 GMT -4
Vizard. Insanity and schizophrenia = win.
Also, the arrancar just seem like 'OMG hollow+sword' but I don't think i've seen enough of them yet.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 3, 2007 17:18:33 GMT -4
Honestly, you'd think the Arrancar would be better...
They don't get a 2nd personality that is trying to EAT THEM FROM THE INSIDE lol They don't have to struggle to gain control of it and they don't have to "perfect" their powers with time lmiits, they're ready and set to go nearly the moment they're made (After a few lessens so they aren't completely stupid *Laughs at Grand Fisher*).
But, honestly, that's why I love Vizard. I have a HUGE thing for insane 2nd personalities, and Masks are just really cool (Though I prefer the "portion" look of the Arrancar and Ichigo's forced transformations over the "whole" mask appearance).
Plus, Vizard get to keep a Multi-Leveled Zanpakuto, they don't have a single powerup like the Arrancar, even if the Arrancar's is an INSANE amount of powerup lol Arrancar don't get really anything from becoming half Shinigami, just a more Human appearance and a Zanpakuto, at least Vizard get some of their abilities (Like Cero).
I see both as extremely good and awsome, but Vizard are just more appealing to my natural likes, even if Arrancar are strategically the smarter choice lol
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Post by Zhiel on Dec 3, 2007 17:19:20 GMT -4
I like Vizards better than arrancar, to me arrancar isnt that special, I think Vasto Lorde is much cooler in concept
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Post by Kazama on Dec 3, 2007 17:43:44 GMT -4
It's not that I like Vaizard better, I like them evenly. But in my opinion Vaizard are much stronger but I could be wrong since we haven't seen much of Vaizard v. Arrancar besides Ichigo vs. Grimmjow. Other than that there was that one time but it was uneven in my opinion.
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Post by Sleeps on Dec 3, 2007 17:45:31 GMT -4
Yes yes Vizard rule I know this but if I had to pick my favorite character from Bleach it would be an Arrancar Nel Tu she is just so cute in kid form
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Post by Naomi on Dec 3, 2007 18:53:50 GMT -4
Gonna have to say Arrancar. I have played a Vizard once. She was BAMF, but I like Arrancar better. Monocrastic, Blood craved, evil, do what ever they want people they are. There half mask and they get even cooler with there release.
Vizard are awesome but I will either make a Vizard or a Arrancar as my next character. For my Vizard I already have her set up just have to make her fit the site.
On the other hand an Arrancar sounds cool for the reason that I would get to try something new. I don't play evil a lot, and I am not the best at it. But if I really got into it. Then the bodies would be hitting the floor.
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Post by D - Tetsushiga Mai on Dec 4, 2007 9:22:43 GMT -4
First of all: Sleeps... NELL TU FTW! SPOILERS... Personal fave the look on Ichigo's face after Nell transforms, he's like shit wtf Nell just got hot!? END SPOILING
Hmmmmm... good one....
Vaizard have the cool inner personality thing... however, the comment going around that their inner personality wants to eat them up from the inside.... my personal belief is that this is just the case with Ichigo, because he hasnt gained control of it yet, and can only hold the mask for 11-15 seconds. From the various discussions during Ichigo's training with the vaizard, i certainly get the picture that the complete subduing of your inner hollow allows you to hold the mask indefinately, and thats what all of the Vaizard presented can do, so their inner hollows have been defeated and subjugated, and arent trying to eat them up from the inside, i mean they probably would if they could... apart from the crazy vaizard girl with green hair that looks like she's wearing an Evangelion plug suit... it was said that she had outright control from the very beginning, possible suggesting she got on with her inner hollow lol?
They also retain kwl multi level zanpakutou and bankai etc... plus Vaizards zanpakutou is a seperate entity with its own spirit, whilst arrencars are just a further part of themselves so you dont have the free reign for inner word conversations...
HOWEVER... Arrancar style and clothes FTW, they're awesome, the whole black and white motif, and for some reason (probably thanks to Ulquiorra) i always associate blue lines with them as well... they have KICK ASS theme tunes as well, im eagerly awating Bleach OST vol. 3 for all the Arrancar spanish guitar music. I also prefer the mask fragment idea to the full facial mask as well, ie... Grimmjows jaw fragment looks cooler than Ichigo's full mask.. Now if Ichi had just kept the half mask that kept on appearing... phantom of the opera style, that might havebeen cool...
So from that is pretty much even stevens... however im gonna have to go with Arrancar for shere style and looks... Sorry Lisa Yamamaru... (my fave Vaizard, and yes, of course it has something to do with the fact that she's pervy and wears a fuku uniform...)
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Post by GoldenKitten on Dec 4, 2007 16:24:48 GMT -4
Arrancar for me. Vizard have always seemed overly powerful since they can have the whole range of powers and are not stuck to one side of the block or the other. As was mentioned above I also like that the Arrancar are completely under control of their powers instead of being at odds with themselves. In another discussion I would mention Bleach has consistently played the "Having inner instability makes you weaker" card yet contradicts itself with the Vizard.
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Post by Naomi on Dec 4, 2007 16:34:34 GMT -4
One word to you Vizard out there. GRAND REY CERO! >.<
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Post by D - Tetsushiga Mai on Dec 4, 2007 17:08:10 GMT -4
to Naomi... in all fairnes, theres no reason for why a Vizard wouldnt be able to use Gran Ray Cero... Grimmjow can use it... Ichigo just about beat a released Grimmjow and Hikari and Shinji throw Ichigo around like a sack of potatos, as well as Shinji owning Grimmjow briefly, and as Vizard have access to Hollow powers it seems a perfectly valid possibility... just a thought...
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Post by Desperado on Dec 4, 2007 21:17:23 GMT -4
to Naomi... in all fairnes, theres no reason for why a Vizard wouldnt be able to use Gran Ray Cero... Grimmjow can use it... Ichigo just about beat a released Grimmjow and Hikari and Shinji throw Ichigo around like a sack of potatos, as well as Shinji owning Grimmjow briefly, and as Vizard have access to Hollow powers it seems a perfectly valid possibility... just a thought... Next you'll say that the Vizard should be able to devour souls too. xP
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Post by Roddo on Dec 5, 2007 17:32:19 GMT -4
Next you'll say that the Vizard should be able to devour souls too. xP I don't see why not ... Lol
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