Question about the chain

[elusive]

I was wondering something. Clearly a vice-captain without bankai (class4) will never be able to beat an espada in ressurection (class7). But what if 2 vice-captains fight 1 espada? How should this be solved? Should you count up the classes form both sides and then determine the chance of winning? (4+4= 8. 8 > 7 so that would mean the espada will most likely not be able to handle it) Or is there another way for this?
Many thanks in advance.

- Elusive

[Galihan]

I do believe that the espada would still be able to defeat the two vice-captains easily, despite having a numerical advantage.

Using my characters as examples, if the Cuatro Espada, Umbra, was to be challenged by Lieutenant Azuka of Squad Two and Lieutenant Chiyo of Squad Seven, adding up to 8, the superior Espada, 7, would still be capable of crushing both opponents individually.

Similarly, I dont think the numbers really add up, because there's no chance in hell that the ten Academy Students (rank 1) would be able to compare to the Commander General (rank 9) even though ten ones outnumber a nine.

[elusive]

Hmmm... Point taken. I guess we'll have to use common sense in that case. Thanks!

[Galihan]

No problem.

[GoldenKitten]

It is also worth mentioning that the chain serves as a guideline for the base number of the titled particular group and not as a rule. After all you could have a captain who similar to kenpaichi didn’t even have shikai or bankai but was still a death dealing uber machine on par with any who did have it. This is of course an extreme example and I am not likely to accept any Kenpaichi clones but it serves a telling purpose.

So for instance one I have heard over and over is how low Vastos Lorde are on the list…this was done for moderation reasoning and while it is low this is the absolute baseline, where most members of that group will begin unless stated one way or the other. In time they could be just as powerful as any other higher rank. On the flip side just because there is a maximum rank don’t think the people who are already at that rank can’t go any higher than that. As this is an RP there will be no power limits unlike real life unless a person decides to implement them on themselves but on the other end neither will any of your opponents. Keep in mind we realize this can be abused and any attempts at a godlike character will be shot down with great speed.

So in the end these are guidelines and you should instead rely off this list only as a basic reminder. Each fight should be approached based on a members own power and skills and not on some set imaginary number. This means any attempt to add levels together is just as imprecise, even considering a weaker member likely wouldn’t stand a chance against a much stronger one even in mass anyway.

[Uryuujin]

I was actually wondering something. Wouldn't the Espada be at different levels based on their numbers? Like the Uno Espada would be at a much higher level than the Dies (10) Espada?

-Uryuujin

[GoldenKitten]

...That was really what my previous post was all about.

What rank a character is at is just a generalization, there can be a huge power gap between members of the same rank and sometimes a lower level rank who has simply been training longer and harder could be many times stronger than a higher ranked opponent. Again it boils down to each particular scenario and who is facing who, I don't like things to be abused but neither do I like restrictive RP's. While if someone argues that another member is power playing I will certainly investigate it this also means that "I'm a phase 4 and he’s a phase 2 so naturally I'm going to win every time" isn't an adequate reasoning for the claim. Said member could easily be stronger or be more tactical and end up on top. The phases are there for a very general purpose and nothing else.

I have strongly considered removing the chain all together; it just confuses too many people into thinking there’s some set limit amongst character types and that phases mean definite and certain victory.